IN THE BOARDROOM™ with...
Mr. Joe Lester
Identity Fraud Product Manager
St. Paul Travelers (NYSE: STA)
SecuritySolutionsWatch.com:
Thanks for joining us today, Joe. Please give our audience an
overview of your background and your role at St. Paul Travelers.
Joe Lester: I joined St. Paul Travelers in January 2003 as
the Identity Fraud Product Manager. In this role, I oversee the
underwriting, product strategy, marketing and overall product
management of the Identity Fraud Expense Reimbursement products.
Prior to joining St. Paul Travelers, I worked in various positions
in the insurance industry including corporate audit, regulatory
and mutual fund centers. I graduated from Vanderbilt University
with a B.A. in 1993 and also hold an M.B.A. degree from Cornell
University, which I earned in 1999.
SecuritySolutionsWatch.com: One will read in St. Paul
Travelers’ recent press release, your comment, “Identity theft
is one of the fastest growing crimes in the country. Last year
more than 9 million Americans were victimized by it with a total
cost to consumers and businesses of over $52 billion, and there is
no end in sight." What are some of the trends that have lead
to the fast growth of identity theft from your perspective?
Joe Lester: Actually, the most recent report from Javelin
Strategy & Research and the Better Business Bureau indicate
that ID theft cost businesses and consumers more than $57 billion
last year. The majority of that cost is borne by the companies
themselves, but consumers did spend almost $4 billion in
out-of-pocket expenses. When someone falls victim to this crime,
it can take a considerable amount of time and effort to clean up
their credit. They may need to take days off from work, meet with
lawyers, file police reports, etc. From what I have seen, the
growth can be attributed to the growing sophistication of identity
thieves. Thieves have figured out how easy it can be to steal
someone’s identity and how profitable it is to do so. We now
have computer experts and organized crime involved. Many of these
thieves are outside of the United States, so it is very difficult
for our law enforcement to combat them and bring them to justice.
SecuritySolutionsWatch.com: What are the main benefits and
features of the St. Paul Travelers ID Fraud Policy?
Joe Lester: As most people are aware, if someone steals
your identity and takes out a car loan in your name, for example,
you are not responsible for the loan amount. The financial
institution that made the loan improperly bears the loss. But, the
individual victim is personally responsible for clearing up their
credit history, filling out police reports, talking to a lawyer
and other time-consuming steps. Clearing one’s credit record can
take anywhere from 40 hours to more than 600 hours. It is like
having a second job, but unpaid.
Identity fraud coverage is available in two ways from St. Paul
Travelers. First, a company or membership group can purchase a
group policy to cover their employees, customers or members.
Second, people who have their homeowners, renters or condominium
coverage through Travelers can purchase an ID Fraud endorsement.
Both policies provide insureds with reimbursement
for their out-of-pocket expenses. We not only cover items like
lost wages and attorney’s fees, but we also cover the smaller
expenses like long-distance telephone charges, notary costs and
mail costs.
When people fall victim to this crime, they feel frustrated,
violated and confused. Oftentimes they do not know what to do or
whom to call. To help them, St. Paul Travelers provides victims
with a “road map” to guide them along the path of cleaning up
their credit history and re-establishing their identity. Our
Victim Kit tells people what steps to take, whom to call
(including telephone numbers), call tracking sheets, an identity
theft affidavit and sample letters to send to financial
institutions, creditors and others.
SecuritySolutionsWatch.com: All too often, there’s another
headline in the news about personal data for tens of thousands of
consumers getting “lost” or stolen from a major financial
institution. Is the problem getting better or getting worse? Are
federal and state government mandates to secure personal data
helping?
Joe Lester: I think the increase in the number of victims
is a reflection of the new generation of thieves who are more
computer-savvy and focused. Whereas in the past, a thief would
steal your mail or your wallet and obtain a single identity, now
someone can hack into a human resources database at a major
company and walk away with thousands of identities all at once.
Now, thieves are more sophisticated and work with each other to
buy and sell stolen identities.
Studies have shown that if a victim discovers their identity has
been compromised sooner rather than later, the overall loss will
be less and they will spend less money and time cleaning up the
mess. Many states have enacted “notification” laws where a
company is obligated to inform people if their identities have
been stolen or are at an increased risk of being stolen. Also,
several states have or are considering “credit freezes.” With
a credit freeze, a consumer can “lock up” their credit report
to prevent new credit from being issued. From a consumer’s
perspective, these are extremely valuable.
SecuritySolutionsWatch.com: What should a consumer do at the
first sign of suspecting that they might be a victim of identity
theft?
Joe Lester: Put a fraud alert on your credit report with
each of the three main credit reporting agencies. Get a copy of
your credit report to see if any new accounts have been opened in
your name. If new accounts have been opened, place a dispute with
the reporting agency and then contact the institution that issued
the credit to tell them it is a fraud. File police reports in your
town and in the town or towns where the fraud took place. Fight
the false credit until it is cleared from your report. Do not stop
until it is removed and your credit is restored. I would also
recommend visiting the Federal Trade Commission’s ID theft Web
site at www.consumer.gov/idtheft.
SecuritySolutionsWatch.com: “Phishing” threats are becoming
more prevalent and sophisticated, yet many end-users do not
understand how a “phishing” attack may lead directly to
identity theft. Please give us an overview of this type of threat
and what people can do to protect themselves.
Joe Lester: “Phishing” is Internet-based and is done
via computer. Thieves send messages in an attempt to trick you
into divulging personal information (credit card numbers, bank
account information, Social Security number, etc.). The messages
sent by phishers claim to be from a business or organization that
you may do business with. For example, you could get a
legitimate-looking message from your Internet service provider,
bank or government agency. The message may ask you to
“update,” “validate” or “confirm” your account
information. Oftentimes these messages will threaten you with
discontinuing service or some other consequence if you don’t
respond. The messages direct you to a Web site that looks like a
legitimate organization’s site but isn’t. It’s a fake Web
site whose only purpose is to trick you into divulging your
personal information so the thieves can steal your identity and
run up bills or commit crimes in your name.
The first thing to be aware of is that the vast majority of
companies will never send you a message asking you to verify
personal, private information. If you do receive one of these
messages, do not reply to it, do not click on any link in it, and
do not call the telephone number shown in the message. Instead,
find the actual number of the company in your file or wherever you
keep it and call that number instead. Tell them about the message
you received and ask them what you should do. You should also keep
their firewalls, anti-virus programs and other computer protection
up to date.
SecuritySolutionsWatch.com: Travelers.com
offers a number of resources for the protection of consumers. How
about an overview of these resources for our audience?
Joe Lester: At www.travelers.com,
we provide insight into what identity theft is and the methods
used by identity thieves. We also provide guidance to consumers to
help them avoid falling victim to this crime.
SecuritySolutionsWatch.com: Thank you very much for your time
today, Joe.
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